tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post1353884706721633304..comments2024-03-13T20:32:49.708+00:00Comments on coldwetnose: More than a few wrinkles at Crufts...Beverley Cuddyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03544804932989118884noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-23252111743792515242011-03-23T19:41:08.740+00:002011-03-23T19:41:08.740+00:00it would seem that recent news that the Breed Resc...it would seem that recent news that the Breed Rescues that the KC supports who now rehome more dogs that Battersea and Dogs Trust Combined, and at a fraction of the cost with great care, knowledge and concern (no GSDs Killed with Bolts)than the RSPCA could ever dream of has got them on the backfoot and so makes the highly paid Mr Watts try and divert the public from their poor track record on animal care by attacking the world of show dogs again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-89480472926547246272011-03-17T13:21:15.529+00:002011-03-17T13:21:15.529+00:00I fear that the answer given by Cambstreasure sho...I fear that the answer given by Cambstreasure show just how little knowledge they have of Animal health research and it is systematic of the lack or real knowledge of animal welfare in the society. They spend MILLIONS of pound each year for the salary of just 8 people, TENS OF MILLIONS on advertising and nothing on animal health research. How can they say “ RSPCA would not fund research which involved deliberately inflicting pain on dogs” when they refuse to prosecute the person who killed a dog with one violent kick as they said it would of not been a painful death!!!! Again the double standards are beyond belief. The work done at the AHT (funded in the main by the KCCT)is to benefit of all dogs ( not just pedigrees but also other species including man) and they are finding test for conditions that could not previously tested for and despite best intentions of breeders/owner t hey just occur i.e. the LL, PRA DNA test for eyes, so for Cambstreasure to make such a sweeping statement as “deliberately inflicting pain on dogs” labelling such breeders as uncaring is I fear a reason why the RSPCA is no longer credible and should have a Royal Commission to investigate it structure finance and agenda asap. Will the RSPCA continue to criticise dogs shows of course they ever be welcome back to Crufts I hope not , as it only open to real dog lover and lovers of political powerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-85752474887348324532011-03-17T10:54:35.115+00:002011-03-17T10:54:35.115+00:00Certainly the RSPCA would not fund research which ...Certainly the RSPCA would not fund research which involved deliberately inflicting pain on dogs (or other animals).<br /><br />Apart from clinical research done at RSPCA hospitals the RSPCA also provides financial support for VEctAR<br /><br />http://www.rvc.ac.uk/VEctAR/Research/RSPCA.cfmcambstreasurerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07757408851026721272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-33454735992061074692011-03-16T18:07:19.638+00:002011-03-16T18:07:19.638+00:00but again Cambtreasure fails to state the RSPCA gi...but again Cambtreasure fails to state the RSPCA give NOTHING to ANY animal health research yet critise the ones that do!! and the RSPCA have far more money than all the other welfare charities and waste far more of it tooo..... now that would be a good tv programme "Animal Hospital.......... the true story of money used for lawyers,PR, political Lobbiest and under hand deals with the racing world"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-20236656784260040622011-03-16T13:55:32.580+00:002011-03-16T13:55:32.580+00:00The RSPCA spends enormous amounts of money on vete...The RSPCA spends enormous amounts of money on veterinary treatment for dogs (and other animals). The combined total number of treatments for all establishments (branch and HQ run) was 217,497 in 2009.<br /><br />HQ don't break up treatments by species, but if the overall figures are similar to the ones we recorded at Cambridge dogs appear to be twice as likely as cats to need treatment. (2,786 vs 1,243 in 2010).<br /><br />That's quite a strong suggestion that the more outbred species tends to be healthier overall, and quite often we only find out that a regular dog owner also has cats when one of the cats needs treatment for an injury.<br /><br />It's not <i>proof</i> that more natural animals are healthier because the figures may simply mean that people on benefits are more likely to own dogs than cats (because they're at home for more of the time).cambstreasurerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07757408851026721272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-88381224821388637202011-03-16T11:11:40.615+00:002011-03-16T11:11:40.615+00:00As I feel my post has been twisted, I would just l...As I feel my post has been twisted, I would just like to clarify that No, I do not say that dogs shown at Crufts are freaks, what they are is bred to fit within certain guidelines for that breed i.e. I have a GSD girl, but could never show her because she is the size and weight stipulated for a male, so she is too tall, too heavy etc. - this, as far as I am aware, does not make her a freaknor the show dogs - just bred to different standards. I have a GSD boy with a straight back, bred that way specifically, but neither he, nor the showdogs are freaks as long as they can lives happily and healthily.<br />I choose not to comment on the RSPCA.Julie Arnoldhttp://www.naturallyhealthydogs.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-36618282724923376032011-03-15T23:03:20.307+00:002011-03-15T23:03:20.307+00:00Militant minds seem to miss details-The RSPCA lett...Militant minds seem to miss details-The RSPCA letter DOES NOT assume all pedigree dogs are miserable etc, re-read it- they used adjectives such as "some" or many" . The bottom line is dogs who do well at Crufts will contribute significantly to their breed gene pool due to their success and for those examples which show exagerations, that is often unfortunate for the health & quality of life of the offspring. Crufts & the Kennel Club still have a long way to go to live up to the frequntly used tag-line of "happy, healthy dogs- fit for function". Most of their recent initiatives they were shamed into, are underpinned by working groups & "experts" who share their vanity first ethos. I pity those dogs afflicted with squashed muzzles, infection prone, drooping eyelids, stunted legs, and disabling "furniture". Tally ho though- so long as they Breed Standard is met, breeders who breed such dogs should be ashamed of themselves, however selected judges will continue to reward these blinkered individuals and the cycle continues..Sarah Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-65697757984358458672011-03-15T22:47:15.537+00:002011-03-15T22:47:15.537+00:00Like Mark Watts or "Douglas Resqueue" ev...Like Mark Watts or "Douglas Resqueue" ever been to a dog show let alone Crufts to acyually be qualifeid to make such statements against them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-42440158962548785502011-03-15T21:37:12.364+00:002011-03-15T21:37:12.364+00:00Well, I had a lovely day at Crufts, talking to lik...Well, I had a lovely day at Crufts, talking to like minded people who love dogs. Mine are pets that are shown and I don't feel guilty by association. The very next day my dogs were wallowing in the mud on the park with the rest of their friends. Pity that the RSPCA doesn't put their own house in order and really rescue the poor dogs that are in distress in the puppy farms, now that is where you will see real suffering. I know that my charity money goes to the Rescues who actually do rescue.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09472219230472306983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-81112607342129183942011-03-15T19:59:16.938+00:002011-03-15T19:59:16.938+00:00For the day out you fool, of all the entries only ...For the day out you fool, of all the entries only a handful can win, we get to have a lovely day out which all my dogs love and chit chat with like minded people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-58681949066665482322011-03-15T16:51:24.303+00:002011-03-15T16:51:24.303+00:00I suspect the that the cost of the piece of paper...I suspect the that the cost of the piece of paper that Mr Watts (or one of his PR Team) had drafted this missive on was in fact more of a cost to the RSPCA that the TOTAL amount of money they have ever donated to canine health research in the last 20+ years, unlike the target of his rant the Kennel Club. The RSPCA do not care about canine health or welfare they just seek power and waste money (even Cambstreasure cant denie the waste of their HO folly spending let alone the building itself when local branches have to go cap in hand for funds!!). The RSPCA are quite clear they don’t like or want there to be dog shows (or I suspect animal type of show) will they next peruse the Horse world, they make great claims about working with the organisers of the Grand National, at which each year many horses are badly injured or KILLED, yet the RSPCA can’t stand by and support this, double standards or what!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-89323923267760683452011-03-15T15:39:56.628+00:002011-03-15T15:39:56.628+00:00The VAST majority of owners that show their dogs a...The VAST majority of owners that show their dogs at Crufts and various championship shows DO only care about winning. Why else would they criticise the RSPCA for trying to bring about an end to the suffering of so many breeds. So, maybe you keep your beloved show dogs indoors as pets, but you are guilty by association. I am totally amazed at the comment by Julie Arnold "and what you see at Crufts is bred for showing and not what those breeds are like all the time". So she acknowledges that the dogs at Crufts are freaks and not normal dogs, but still she criticises the RSPCA. One last point (for now), if you dont want to win, why enter a championship show ?Douglas Resqueuenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-35774883558658804382011-03-15T15:25:02.744+00:002011-03-15T15:25:02.744+00:00Well Mark Watts would say that wouldn't he, as...Well Mark Watts would say that wouldn't he, as "Chief Executive" of an organisation that abdicated it's responsibility towards general animal welfare to concentrate on softer, more politically advantageous targets a long time ago. The RSPCA is regretably now no more than a political organisation hungry for money and power.<br /><br />For real cruelty look to the puppy farmers, the food production industries and the indiscriminate backstreet breeders. Here you'll find all the problems you want but these don't have the media kudos the RSPCA so deeply crave.<br /><br />I still have a photograph produced in the eighties for a RSPCA magazine ad. It shows a pile of over 1000 real dead dogs representing the weekly cull of this "so caring" organisation. The corpses used in the shoot were supplied without any difficulty by just a few local RSPCA "rescue" centres.<br /><br />In more recent times the organisations own chairperson declared pubically that the RSPCA saw itself as a campaigning organisation not a hands on welfare body. Where is she now...no idea, but I guess her term of tenure at the RSPCA would have helped further her very lucrative career in the "voluntary" sector. I wonder what Mark Watts plans are?<br /><br />As far as the RSPCA itself is concerned isn't it about time it told the truth about it's motives and activities. How many dogs are still being put down every year? How many cases of real cruelty in puppy farms are still being ignored? How many cases of street cruelty will remain un-investigated. It's time the RSPCA opened itself up to investigation, afterall, it swallows up rather a large amount of money provided by millions of well meaning individuals who have duly swallowed all the lies.Martin CBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-67486581097440010632011-03-15T14:21:26.661+00:002011-03-15T14:21:26.661+00:00Please could I clarify that the RSPCA never was re...Please could I clarify that the RSPCA never was responsible for stray dogs, but we DO take in injured strays - often ones the dog warden would have no choice but to put down.<br /><br />We also take in large numbers of dogs whose "time is up" in local authority kennels.<br /><br />BUT our first duty is towards the animals who have been taken in as a result of decisions made by frontline staff. It would be absolutely unacceptable if we were to put them down in order to make space to admit animals whose owners have decided they do not want them.cambstreasurerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07757408851026721272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-59888228855156724152011-03-15T13:33:29.709+00:002011-03-15T13:33:29.709+00:00In fact, the letter from the RSPCA is misleading. ...In fact, the letter from the RSPCA is misleading. It assumes that ALL pedigree dogs are miserable and unhealthy when the majority are indeed happy and healthy. EVEN those shown Unhappy dogs will not show well and will not win. YES, there are breeds that ought not to exist in there present form, that is obvious. However, I am sick and tired of reading/hearing that we are ALL monsters who only care about winning. Most of us keep our dogs as family pets that are shown. Most of us are ethical and avoid as well as we can inherited problems and avoid bad tempers. The ultimate aim of a hardcore of animal rights people want us to not keep pets at all and it seems to me the RSPCA is enabling the extremists. I stopped supporting them years ago when I realised that their main objectives are political and not welfare of animals. Look how much money they wasted on the dog licence campaign. Now they don't even take in strays!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14864658805462324550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-8464446099334206552011-03-15T13:09:44.408+00:002011-03-15T13:09:44.408+00:00Have to say I must take issue a little with the RS...Have to say I must take issue a little with the RSPCA poster, there 'are' healthy pedigree dogs to be found, and what you see at Crufts is bred for showing and not what those breeds are like all the time, I mean, how many GSD's do you see walking the streets beside their owners with their backs sloping down severely and back legs so low ?Julie Arnoldhttp://www.naturallyhealthydogs.co.uknoreply@blogger.com