tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post5991138491455567179..comments2024-03-13T20:32:49.708+00:00Comments on coldwetnose: Awakenings around the world of dogsBeverley Cuddyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03544804932989118884noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-17939573574630941882009-03-19T09:24:00.000+00:002009-03-19T09:24:00.000+00:00Okay StanLet's look at Hip Dysplasia. Since 1984 o...Okay Stan<BR/><BR/>Let's look at Hip Dysplasia. Since 1984 only 100,000 dogs have gone through the official BVA/KC scheme (source KC website). In that time approximately 4.8 million dogs have been registered by the Kennel Club (Assuming a fairly low average figure approx 200k dogs a year - real figure for 2008 271k). <BR/>I'd love to see the spin doctor that come make those figures equate to a majority testing! Remember too that not all pedigree dogs are KC registered.<BR/><BR/>Stan, the people you know may test - but the majority of pups produced are from completely untested parents. It's got to be the case. The GSD people say that 70% of the registered pups produced in their breed are untested - and they want the KC to start being fussier as they have been asking for mandatory testing for almost as long as me!<BR/><BR/>I'm writing a new blog today about this as I think it's interesting that that's how you perceive it.Beverley Cuddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544804932989118884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-17735015982530662722009-03-19T08:42:00.000+00:002009-03-19T08:42:00.000+00:00Come on Beverley, you say "themajority of breeders...Come on Beverley, you say "the<BR/>majority of breeders simply dont<BR/>health test" what evidence/figures from a RELIABLE source do you offer<BR/>to substantiate this claim, we can all make a statement as if its fact<BR/>Stan BerryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-3327778712711567832009-03-14T16:06:00.000+00:002009-03-14T16:06:00.000+00:00Oh come on Sirius, lighten up and get off the KC s...Oh come on Sirius, lighten up and get off the KC soap box for five minutes. It's Saturday.<BR/>Everyone else pretty much is concentrating on the Endal story but you're still point scoring.<BR/>If you're so proud of health testing why isn't it mandatory?<BR/>Why haven't we got searchable COI, limits on the overuse of popular sires. And if Dr Mugford is so spot on re temperaments of show dogs - how come one exhibitor ended up in hospital after being bitten in the thigh during a class? <BR/>Just give it a break and use your efforts to convince the KC to make good breeding the norm and not just the elite. The majority of breeders simply DON'T health test. That is a fact.<BR/>Why spend all this energy trying to persuade all of us that the KC is doing enough when it's patently obviously not the case.<BR/>As for the criticism of the RSPCA report, ridiculous. It is a compilation of research by definition!<BR/>Spin Spin Spin - you're making me dizzy!<BR/>Why no action on COI? Why no limits of on stud dog use? Why drag the heels on mandatory testing?Beverley Cuddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544804932989118884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-13273383823672352942009-03-14T15:48:00.000+00:002009-03-14T15:48:00.000+00:00Its a shame that Jo S did not go to Crufts as she ...Its a shame that Jo S did not go to Crufts as she might have a more informed opinion, like many of thousands of people who both show and breed their dogs I and they carry out many health test each and every year, as we work with the BVA and KC to ensure that our dogs live long and happy lives, many of my own dogs live well over the age of 16 with no health problems at all, but as mine and many other breeds have made testing for conditions a priority before breeding for over 30 years and have reduced many of the condition that once occurred (unlike many cross breed and mongrels) we also ensure that our dogs temperaments are the very best they can be ( a fact supported my DR Mugford) not just for the show ring but for in the home where they spend the vast majority of their time. Yes we would love to be able to do even more test i.e. with a simple blood/D.N.A. test but science has not yet been able to provide this for us, and we have been raising funds along with the Kennel Club and other breeder and breed clubs around the world for many decades to do so, and this research will benefit ALL dogs and even some humans as they too share most of the same problems that dogs do. There are very few people who show their dogs would ever be able to make a profit out of them, those that do are puppy farmers who would never be seen around any show be it the small companion shoe, a breed club limit show, a local open show or a national championship show. Indeed most breeds now have national or world congresses to discuss and swap information n the health and welfare of their breed, if the likes of Jo S really looked into what the so flippantly criticize other for not doing they would not see there is a need for health “Reforms” as the so called reforms are the “Norms” carried out by the vast majority of caring breeders who also show and they have done so for many year, the point which the makers of PDE and their “lapdog cronies” decided NOT to show. I spoke to one nice lady who came to Crufts to show her two children the dogs there, Discover Dogs being the ideal place as she put it to get a informed opinion on each breed from people who really know and care about them, she had just given up a job in PR , having worked for the PDSA , and in her opinion their knee jerk reaction to withdrawing from Crufts was not just the wrong one in the short but also the long terms as it was the best time in year they had to get their message out to an educated audience and gain support for their work from not just the visitors but also the exhibitors who they felt can inform potential new owners of any dogs better than any campaign they had ever run. I also spent time speaking at length with some of the most senior vets in the country who criticize the recent RSPCA report on breeding and welfare of dogs as at best they think it is a miss match of previous reports which included some of breeds that have never been in this country to an over blown PR stunt as it never stated its TOR, or what limitations it would be working within and how this might affect its deliverables, the goals that were set had predefined but it did not state by who or on what basis, which means that the report is one that will just confirm existing “Opinions” and not set out to establish facts, the greatest flaw they agree which will undermine it as being a useful report is that it automatically makes the incorrect assumption that cross breeds and mongrels suffer from NO health problem by excluding them from the report/study as one put it “it would be like the Government deciding that in future children from families who parents are not together should be excluded from any health or welfare surveys!!”, surly those who proclaim themselves as the health reformers for dogs would not support such a move?? !!?? SiriusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-56053952869807565502009-03-14T13:23:00.000+00:002009-03-14T13:23:00.000+00:00It would appear that as usual these "crufts cronie...It would appear that as usual these "crufts cronies" do not give a toss about the health of the dogs, all they want is the "prestige" of doing well in crufts, not about health reforms!! oh well, its what we come to expect. money before health as usual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-6176555662683478522009-03-13T21:50:00.000+00:002009-03-13T21:50:00.000+00:00In Belgium, they showed 'pedigree dogs exposed' to...In Belgium, they showed 'pedigree dogs exposed' too, recently. Our jouralists are making a study too. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-72201373631601063872009-03-13T08:44:00.000+00:002009-03-13T08:44:00.000+00:00I am still almost speechless that everyone - espec...I am still almost speechless that everyone - especially those who had the opportunity to show their dogs at Crufts - is not embracing the whole topic of health reforms. Why is every bit of info criticised? Surley anyone who shows and breeds should be devouring every word. I can only think those who are getting so very upset must be feeling guilty - otherwise why feel 'got at'???In the pinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09043405252243850366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-89200782056452022982009-03-12T14:58:00.000+00:002009-03-12T14:58:00.000+00:00Well I see you still think I am sort of subversive...Well I see you still think I am sort of subversive mole from Clarges Street, but it now seems no matter how much reassurance I give you that I have not and do not work for the KC, it will not stop the paranoia that I must be, however now seeing you quote information i have brought to your attention in other forms of media does afford me a wry smile!!! Well four very busy days of Crufts have now been and gone, and it’s a shame that the few readers of Dogs Today (last month’s issue still seemed very much in evidence on the shelves in WH Smiths, but the credit crunch affect in all kinds of ways!!) will not be able to enjoy a full and balanced report of the thousands and thousands of happy healthy dogs enjoying their time at the show in so many different forms of competition, as I assume the lack of press pass supplied to you from the KC, and reduced income from the normal pre Crufts bashing you use to get from the national press, that now has been lining Jemima Harrison’s pocket this year (i suspect though she will be giving all of it to the KC Charitable Trust so they can give it out with the £4,000,000.00 they have given out in recent year to the benefit of ALL dogs and the advance of canine research and medicine, but perhaps she is use to taking money from them like the RSPCA and not t to give it!!!, so I wont be holding my breath to see her donation being made). Well BC I had plenty of time to show my dogs (some nice wins too) and catch up with folks from all over the world of Dogs, and just to report back JH stating that “certain” parts of the PDE was removed due to the need for advertising breaks in some countries, are again one of her misleading (I am too much of gentleman to say lies) as I have been assured by one of the most senior person in a Scandinavian KC that one channel on which it was shown has no advertising yet the totally inaccurate and insulting angle used in the programme the that KC was based on Eugenics movement and therefore implying that breeder of pedigree dogs could be likened to the views of Nazis had been removed........................ would JH like to comment ???? or is she still too busy spinning her next sound byte for the press?!?! Sirius PS you must check back on that blog I did not start your Fluffy credential rumours, that was Philippa (I believe termed by some as a cyber troll !!!, but her double standards on in breeding and breeding from health check stock do make her that credible to most people)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com