tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post8001493405180117129..comments2024-03-13T20:32:49.708+00:00Comments on coldwetnose: Chips with everything...Beverley Cuddyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03544804932989118884noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-81487896096007730402010-02-13T17:50:15.932+00:002010-02-13T17:50:15.932+00:00Claire, maybe it's the historical association ...Claire, maybe it's the historical association with racing dogs, DDA legislation and livestock.<br />There are many that consider chipping to be cruel, it's not a stretch to then assume a tatoo is even more so.<br />Just an idea, maybe it's gone out of fashion as times have changed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-91842864051136615602010-02-11T20:18:28.100+00:002010-02-11T20:18:28.100+00:00Does anyone know why tatooing isn't more popul...Does anyone know why tatooing isn't more popular? Is it because it is considered to 'spoil' a dog's appearance? I would be really interested to know...Claire Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-29039273908564032842010-02-09T18:30:38.793+00:002010-02-09T18:30:38.793+00:00We have prosecuted owners for not complying with t...We have prosecuted owners for not complying with the tagging legislation - it is an criminal offence and even carries a possible custodial sentence (I don't think anyone's ever been sent to prison for it though)! We have used it in instances of persistant strays where the owner has paid the fine to claim their dog but continues to allow it to stray. Sometimes it is not taken seriously by the courts but on other occasions we have had excellent results as shown by the fact we have not had those dogs straying again!<br /><br />I do agree with microchipping all dogs (with the option of tattooing as well) - newer microchips rarely migrate (we only find migrated chips in older dogs although I am aware it is possible), almost all dog wardens scan every dog that comes in and it is something that can't be removed as easily as a collar in the case of a stolen dog. Every year we have many lovely dogs that appear to have once been loved and trained but remain unclaimed. We check lost and stolen websites and send their details out but if they have been missing for a longer period than say 6 months they often drop off the radar.<br />However I do agree that it should be part of a robust piece of legislation that takes into account changes to breeding legislation etc. It is too easy to breed dogs without consequence or any apparent morals! and it is the rescues and local authorities that pick up the cost... as well as the general public through their taxes and donations. <br />Education is vital but enforcement is sometimes necessary for those that take no notice of the polite approachalinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-3224481882137142382010-02-08T23:36:16.155+00:002010-02-08T23:36:16.155+00:00I don't see a mandatory requirement working. A...I don't see a mandatory requirement working. A collar and tag is already a legal requirement and there are many that already don't comply. It may help in breeding schemes but most dogs in rescue don't originate there. They have no id because of their first, second, third owner. They are not treasured pets but what seems a good idea at the time until the work involved becomes clear.<br /><br />I cannot speak for other counties but I know from experience that in Nottingham, the Dog Wardens and their kennels check thoroughly for a microchip, from tip to toe. When one is found all to often it is the story already mentioned, they have passed the dog on and have no details of who to or even when at times.<br /><br />Also often the chip moves because the dog is too young, or more often, has not been fitted correctly in the first instance.<br />Maybe tatoo is better, I'm not sure. Until people stop seeing them as a quick buck or novelty, we have to keep looking for a solution.<br /><br />My dogs are chipped because they would make friends with anyone and at least it's another chance to get them home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-19657120664621024732010-02-08T14:38:33.179+00:002010-02-08T14:38:33.179+00:00Chips migrate if entered before the dog has fully ...Chips migrate if entered before the dog has fully grown and can end up in their toes as our vet found recently<br /><br />In Britain a chip doesnt meean happy ending for a stray the owner usually states the dog was sold long ago and has no interest; or can have moved address and there is a lost connection unless the owner reports the animal missing to the right company.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14285337634226674194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-53852647747512976912010-02-08T14:34:39.227+00:002010-02-08T14:34:39.227+00:00We have found dogs chipped before say 9 months..t...We have found dogs chipped before say 9 months..their chip is likely to migrate as they grow and often proves very difficult to detect.<br /><br />Also dogs found stray that are chipped the owners often state they sold them on long ago and have no record to whom they sold them End of story.<br /><br />Finally the information is not readily available to rescuers. So where we could at least find out the dogs true name and age it isnt available.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14285337634226674194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-78718841795594712362010-02-07T15:32:23.640+00:002010-02-07T15:32:23.640+00:00I am not a supporter for compulsory microchipping....I am not a supporter for compulsory microchipping. I feel it should be an owners choice of how they want to identify their dog. <br /><br />I had my Terrier bitch microchipped as a pup. When i went back a year later for a check up i asked for her to be scanned and the vets could not find the chip at all! They scanned all over and it was not identified anywhere! I was livid and swore i would never have another dog of mine chipped. <br /><br />Since then i have heard that chips can migrate especially in puppies when the skin is stretching etc. <br /><br />For me a Tattoo would be more ideal for permanent identification. <br /><br />LouiseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-61966982486447568382010-02-06T19:51:27.265+00:002010-02-06T19:51:27.265+00:00microchipping puppies will link them to the breede...microchipping puppies will link them to the breeder. No puppy farmer or irresponsible breeder will be able to deny that a sick puppy with inherited health problems originated from their premisesMargaret Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-43269861699843502452010-02-04T16:20:39.501+00:002010-02-04T16:20:39.501+00:00It's too easy to change the chip details. When...It's too easy to change the chip details. When I adopted Fred I only needed to send in adoption papers or his vaccination cert. I could have faked the papers. Not one of the vets who saw him initially scanned him to see if he belonged to someone else, bearing in mind he was 11 months when I fostered him and nearly 2 when the adoption went through.<br /><br />When I sent off for the chip change I didn't even know what company it was! There are too many databases. Luckily petlog knew and redirected my letter and payment.<br /><br />Lots of people don't bother with id tags, although when I mentioned in one newsletter to my customers that legally dogs can be rehomed after as little as 7 days with no legal right to get their dog back, 5 dogs suddenly had tags fitted.<br /><br />Scanning of dogs needs to be compulsory before chipping is compulsory - although I'd always have my dogs chipped. I'd rather there be a small chance I'd get my dog back than no chance.Linda Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04916374906353488597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-30506641132340224322010-02-04T14:54:07.046+00:002010-02-04T14:54:07.046+00:00Sounds to me like you're leaning towards the K...Sounds to me like you're leaning towards the Kennel Club Accredited Breeder Scheme! <br /><br />New rules intorduced in January by the BVA mean every dog tested under BVA testing schemes has to be identified by microchip or tattoo, which means all dogs bred by accreddited breeders must have some form of permanent identification. <br /><br />Accredited breeders also have to use a standard written contract with their buyers which is from Trading Standards. <br /><br />Just thought is was an interesting point....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-39576681534629577252010-02-04T14:09:38.683+00:002010-02-04T14:09:38.683+00:00I don't agree with compulsory microchipping. I...I don't agree with compulsory microchipping. It isn't a fail-safe method, if more people researched chips they would realise this. I've heard of many lost dogs getting picked up and not scanned by wardens, or the chips haven't been read by certain scanners, have moved, etc. <br /><br />If chips become compulsory then so should scanning by all sources - vets, wardens, etc!<br /><br />My dog has a tattoo in his ear, done by The National Dog Tattoo Register. It consists of tiny needles shaped into a code of numbers and letters which is clamped onto ear for a spilt second. It didn't hurt my dog, and can't think it could be any worse than having a microchipping needle inserted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-46451764929405090742010-02-04T14:05:03.295+00:002010-02-04T14:05:03.295+00:00no system will be bullet proof but mandatory micro...no system will be bullet proof but mandatory microchipping will help many lost or abandoned dogs. Of course the unscrupulous will still slip through the net but surely every tool we can employ to track and trace is worth using? My biggest concern is that not enough people routinely scan dogs. Vets should scan every new dog they see and scanners should be widely available for anyone finding a dog to make use of.In the pinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09043405252243850366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-12901308496174470662010-02-04T12:13:59.237+00:002010-02-04T12:13:59.237+00:00In Germany the dogs not only get chipped, the owne...In Germany the dogs not only get chipped, the owner register the dog (or cat) with organisations like Tasso (http://www.tasso.net/). Shelters or Vets all have Scanners, so when a Stray comes in, they ar checked for the Chip. They then contact Tasso, if the dog (or cat) is registered, and if so, Tasso calls the owner and tells them, where the animal is.<br />They are really fast an quite persistend to get hold of the owner. And it works really well.<br />If the animal is not registered it is, of course a little bit more complicated.<br /><br />It ist also very much harder to abandon a registered dog, because Tasso will find the owner, and as abondoning is aganst the law, the owner faces a lawsuit. That pretty much prevents owners from abandon registered dogs - but of course only, when the dog is registered.Martinahttp://www.chakanyuka.de.vunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7457786458429416955.post-15835780912283675732010-02-04T11:33:14.224+00:002010-02-04T11:33:14.224+00:00I tend to agree that Puppy Contracts and microchip...I tend to agree that Puppy Contracts and microchips are the way to go. If I bred pups, I would very definitely want to ensure that any puppy in trouble came back to me. I can see problems though - as a breeder, how would one enforce a contract if the dog was sold on, or rehomed? Is it advisable to microchip tiny toy puppies at such a young age? As a purchaser, how would you prove that the pup's problems were down to heredity, or lack of very early socialisation? Would an increase in legislation and control simply lead to an increase in "black market" breeding and buying, as usually happens as soon as anything is prohibited? If there are still people losing thousands of pounds to puppy scams, and buying pups sight unseen for delivery to a local motorway service station, there will certainly be people who neither know nor care about having a contract, especially if there is any associated cost. It is an excellent concept - how could it be made to work in practice?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com