Pedigree Dogs Exposed extra
Just released, some bits that hit the cutting room floor. This strand is all Dave Cavill, Our Dogs proprietor who has often complained that his words didn't get included.
I'm aware that you can't see all the screen, if you'd like to see it in full click here.
I'm aware that you can't see all the screen, if you'd like to see it in full click here.
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Is Sirius drunk?
Jemima
And of course this is a posting that brings double joy as I see it has got Sirius' goat.
The posts that do that are my favourites.
Philippa
And as for Ofcom it would seem that it's you and your KC mates that seem to have been totally incontinent during this process!
As to being critical of the editing of this film sequence - would you have liked to hear even more of the dog world according to Dave? Would a longer sequence make what he is saying any more sensible? As you can hear he definitely gets a fair "crap of the whip."
And Sirius, why are you so ashamed to admit to who you are and what you do? Being a KC General Committee member really shouldn't be something to be that ashamed of... well come to think of it, I can see your point!
You clip on here is another produce of the unbalanced editors cutting ......if you want to publish more why not just publish a complete UNCUT version, and while your doing that why not publish ALL the material you cut out from the interview with the BVA president instead of the couple of seconds you did use I hear he did speak to JH for about 1 hour, but she decided not to show his expert opinion, why not show his full interview on Youtube if you have nothing to hide?
PS I see phillipa still hasn’t commented on encouraging the use of untested dogs to produce her own pet..........but slams other for the same practice.......its again a case of do as I say but not as I do
Sirius.......I dont expect this to be published as BC I know you cant back up your claims
I feel sorry for him. He's been so socialized within this framework that he can't see that his logic is faulty.
He's got nothing but canards and non sequiturs.
He's in the wrong business. He should have gone into politics!
I particularly love getting trollish comments on my blog that use poor grammar and are full of typos (and conspiracy theories.)
Keep up the good work.
It makes no difference what was cut or added, the facts are clearly evident in this piece - the man is speaking his own words, no-one is adding them in, we can clearly hear the questions too.
I fully support the campaign for better health and education in breeding dogs. I applaud the documentary makers for shaking up this industry.
I look forward to similar focus on the dog training industry too, of which I am part.
Regards
Keep up the brilliant work Beverly and Jemima both of you have very nice heart conditions the dogs need change now and if others cannot see this one day they will.
Of course he didn't have a chance to prepare, so that excuses the stammering & the comment about giving the dogs a fair "crap of the whip" lol.....
but listening to him is painful.
I had to laugh (incredulously) at his comment about the 2 minutes spent judging a dog compared to the "7th of a second it takes a man to decide if a woman is attractive"
If those clips are anything to go by he should be relieved his interview wasn't shown, hasn't he ever wondered why it was ommitted!
Dave knew he was talking to a TV camera and he is experienced and competent being part of the media himself and a KC member, too.
The dog show media have frequently been very personal in attacking the people who featured in or produced Pedigree Dogs Exposed. Most recently last week's front page of Our Dogs for example contained some unjustified unsubstantiated sleights against Jemima Harrison.
Here I merely show Dave's own words - I have not given any commentary.
Dave and I are friends and have been for 20 plus years but that hasn't prevented him commenting on my involvement in the programme on You Tube and in his paper etc.
We both have our differing points of view and so far his haven't been as widely heard as his words didn't make it into the documentary.
I have heard no complaints from David at his contributions being finally made available.
He has constantly complained that his input wasn't used - now it can be seen and heard - at length.
I do admit that there are several things Dave says in these clips that if he were talking to me directly we would engage in a very lively debate - but I suspect he was just reflecting what many in the show world thought at the time. The fact that people in the show world are now complaining that these views are embarrassing does fill me with real hope for the future.
Post PDE transmission I am hoping Dave too would know that the Cavaliers he sees at shows may all look lovely - but that far from being healthy 50% will have heart problems and a certain percentage will also be affected by the dreaded syringomyelia.
To now complain when I simply let someone say the opposite view to my own on my blog seems a bit rich!
No one forced him to say these things!
Any comparison to the human state is flawed from the onset, life quality is simply not comparable
The more these people speak the more as someone deeply involved in pedigree dogs I wish someone would speak sense,logic, use science,technology and learn the lessons of those that have gone before
Just because you have been doing it for the prerequisite 40 years dosnt make it right
I would love to believe you, it would make my world simpler, i could continue in the same way BUT the sense and logic all seems to come from the people who can see, who recognise the "King is naked"
Beauty can NEVER come before health if at all preventable NEVER
And even though you're just being plain anonymous this evening I still recognised you, the thing is no one else watches PDE with a stop watch apart from the cronies at the KC!
this doesn't build a case against responsible dedicated breeders, just points out errors and misinformation in someones judgment.
If you really want this debate to move on anonymous I suggest a couple of things:
Get yourself better spokespeople. Ones that can grasp the science and are open minded enough to debate without recourse to libel and the regurgitation of long cherished myths about dog breeding.
Get more people in your community to actually adopt a wider range of better breeding practices. I am afraid a hip score here and an eye test there is simply not enough.
Get the large proportion of your community who are so deep in denial about the harm they do to their dogs through the yearning for type and exaggeration to wake up and smell the coffee.
And if you don't wish to see more excrutiatingly embarrassing clips like this, and that ridgeback and cavalier breeder in the main bit of the film get more of your people to stop providing the film crew with such peaches of idiocy.
As for the comment higher up about Dogs Today magazine I have to say that this is pretty much the first year that I have bought it every month because it is now providing real substance on a regular basis.
surely in your own breeding program you have seen that no matter how many tests you perform, sometimes nature has other plans? what exactly is your proposed theory on selecting breedable animals?
despite the lunacy in many of the comments and speakers shown to represent ''the dog world'' there
are lots of dedicated show breeders giving it their all to ensure the best for their dogs.
remember that people are making careers on this subject and those who vilify the very people who ARE making a difference are as unscrupulous as the puppy farmers.
So then BC you make a big claim so why don’t you say which member of the KCGM you say I am.............. if your right I will make a very BIG contribution to Tailwaggers............and if you’re wrong.......well lets say the KC Charitable Trust donation you will make will be a tax write off I am sure, why not let Ms Harrison make her claim public too she keeps of saying she know my name and what role she says I have in the KC............. go on prove just how good a journalists you two really are ...... or are you more bark than bite when it comes to your claims?
Sirius
Bet you get told off by the others?
There is a very simple way of ending this silly game - just tell everyone who you are.
What have you got to hide? If necessary get some counselling so you feel better about who you are and what you do - or indeed change what you do if you feel so much shame that you can't even tell people your name.
People are broad minded. I count some KC committee members as my friends, they've been to the house and give them cups of tea - well mugs actually didn't get the fancy teacups out.
True they tend to put a blanket over their heads on the way in and out in case one of their mates might see them fratenising with the enemy!
But times they are a changing and you can come out of that stuffy closet, Sirius. You can even come around for tea, too if you like.
Time for Jaw Jaw not War War as some chap who looked like an unreformed Bulldog may once have said.
Sirius
And as to your invite to the fourth floor I don't think they'll let you sign us in anonymously!
Will you be carrying a copy of the KC Breed standards and carrying a bunch of flowers?
I don't think you've thought this through - a little like many of the KC schemes!
By adopting that persona, by persisting with your self centred game, Sirius you are helping your cause how?
Kind regards,
Kendra